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Tricep pushdown alternatives, by goal and by what's free

Pick a tricep pushdown alternative by goal and by what's free: overhead work for size, close-grip presses for strength, bands for sore elbows. Sets and reps.

By Will Richards6 min read

Short answer

For triceps size, pick an overhead extension: a cable or dumbbell overhead triceps extension, 3 sets of 10 to 15. For pressing strength, pick a close-grip bench press, 3 sets of 6 to 10, or close-grip push-ups. If your elbows are sore, use a band pushdown or light kickbacks for 12 to 20 reps. Expect to lift less overhead: in one study, overhead loads were 34 to 39% lower than with the elbow at the side, so start near 60% of your usual pushdown working weight and leave 2 to 3 reps in reserve.

The pushdown is an easy exercise to replace, because the triceps have one main job: straightening the elbow. What changes is which part of the triceps gets the most work and how much weight you can use. So pick the swap by why you were doing pushdowns, then by what’s free.

Pick the swap by goal

If you do pushdowns for Best swaps Why
Bigger triceps Cable overhead triceps extension, dumbbell overhead triceps extension Arms overhead stretch the long head, the biggest part of the triceps
A stronger bench or overhead press Close-grip bench press, dumbbell floor press with your palms facing each other, close-grip push-up The triceps work alongside the chest and shoulders, in the pattern you want to get stronger in
Comfortable elbows or shoulders Band pushdown, light dumbbell kickback Light loads, and your arms stay by your sides

If you only have time for one triceps exercise and size is the goal, make it an overhead one. The pushdown trains the triceps with your arms by your sides, so the long head never gets a full stretch.

Pick the swap by what’s free

What’s free Size Pressing strength Sore elbows
Another cable Cable overhead extension with a rope Skip the cable: close-grip press or close-grip push-ups Rope pushdown, lighter, 15 to 20 reps
Dumbbells and a bench Dumbbell overhead extension, seated with back support Close-grip dumbbell floor press Kickback, 12 to 20 reps
A band Band overhead extension, anchored low behind you Band push-up Band pushdown, anchored high
Bodyweight, with a bench or bar Close-grip push-up, slow lowering Bar dips if they already feel fine, otherwise close-grip push-ups Close-grip push-up, hands raised on a bench
Nothing at all Close-grip push-up, slow lowering Close-grip push-up Close-grip push-up on your knees

With nothing at all, close-grip push-ups are the answer. Hands under your shoulders, elbows tucked close to your sides, 3 seconds down. Raise your feet on a step if 20 reps is easy, as in a decline push-up.

Expect a lighter weight overhead

Your pushdown numbers won’t carry over, and overhead they drop a lot. In a 12-week study with cables, the overhead arm always used 34 to 39% less weight than the arm at the side, and still grew more. So lifting less is part of how the exercise works, not a sign you’re weak.

For the first set of any swap:

  • Cable overhead extension: start near 60% of the weight you use for your usual pushdown sets, then adjust. That’s a first-set rule, not a result of the study.
  • Dumbbells, bands and bodyweight: there’s no conversion from a stack. Pick something that feels easy for 10 reps.
  • Leave 2 to 3 reps in reserve. If you had more left, go heavier on the next set. If you missed reps, go lighter.

Sets and reps for each swap

Swap Sets and reps Rest
Cable or dumbbell overhead extension 3 × 10 to 15 60 to 90 seconds
Dumbbell skullcrusher 3 × 10 to 15 60 to 90 seconds
Close-grip bench press 3 × 6 to 10 2 minutes
Close-grip dumbbell floor press 3 × 8 to 12 90 seconds
Close-grip push-up 3 × 8 to 20 60 to 90 seconds
Band pushdown or band overhead extension 3 × 12 to 20 60 seconds
Dumbbell kickback 2 to 3 × 12 to 20 60 seconds

Once you hit the top of the rep range on every set with 2 reps to spare, add load next session and start back at the bottom. The double progression calculator works this out.

Don’t stack two near-twins

The overhead extension and the lying extension, or skullcrusher, showed similar activation patterns in one study, and its authors advised against doing both in the same routine. Pick one, and pair it with a close-grip press if you want a second triceps exercise. A press and an extension are different enough to earn their places; two extensions mostly repeat each other.

If the whole cable station is busy

Keep your planned sets and reps, and try these in order:

  1. Another cable. The other side of a dual stack, or a single pulley elsewhere. Ask first.
  2. A band on a rack. Loop it over the top of a rack or pull-up bar for pushdowns.
  3. One dumbbell, overhead. Hold it with both hands and sit on a bench with back support.
  4. Close-grip push-ups on a bench. Always free, and harder than they sound with a slow lowering.

The honest limits

  • Bands are hardest at lockout and light at the start, so the stretched part of the rep gets little work. Pause at the bottom of each pushdown.
  • Kickbacks stay light by nature. They’re fine for elbows and for high reps, but they won’t let you load the triceps much.
  • Dips and close-grip bench are heavy, but they share the work with your chest and shoulders. They’re good for pressing strength and less precise for the triceps alone.
  • Overhead work bothers some shoulders, especially with a heavy dumbbell. If it does, use the cable version or switch to a skullcrusher. Skip skullcrushers and bench dips if your elbows or the front of your shoulders complain. If any of these hurts, stop the exercise, and see a qualified professional if the pain is sharp or lasting.

What the research says

  • In 21 adults, one arm trained cable elbow extensions overhead and the other with the elbow at the side, for 12 weeks. The overhead arm’s long head grew by 28.5% against 19.6%, and the whole triceps by 19.9% against 13.9%, even though it always used 34 to 39% lower loads (Maeo and colleagues, 2023). The study didn’t call the side-arm version a pushdown, but it’s the closest match.
  • In 21 trained men, overhead and lying dumbbell extensions showed similar long- and lateral-head activation patterns, so the authors advised against putting both in one routine (Alves and colleagues, 2018). That’s muscle activity at a light load, not growth.

Neither study tested dumbbells against cables for growth or looked at bands or bodyweight. The study used cables. Counting it for dumbbells is our call, because the arm is stretched the same way.

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Will Richards

Founder and editorial lead, Handler

Handler's founder writes general training guides and documents their sources. This article is educational, not an individual coaching or medical assessment.

Sources

The study findings below come from the linked abstracts. The goal and equipment tables, sets and reps, the 60% starting load and the busy-gym order are coaching guidance, not results from those studies.

Sources

  1. 01Maeo et al. 2023, Eur J Sport Sci: overhead vs neutral-arm triceps training (In 21 adults over 12 weeks of cable elbow extensions, the overhead arm grew more than the arm at the side: long head +28.5% vs +19.6%, whole triceps +19.9% vs +13.9%. The overhead arm always used 34 to 39% lower loads.)pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35819335/
  2. 02Alves et al. 2018, J Sports Med Phys Fitness: shoulder position and triceps activity (In 21 trained men, overhead and lying dumbbell extensions showed similar activation patterns, so the authors advise against programming both in one routine. Muscle activity at a light load, not growth.)pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28677940/

Frequently asked questions

What is the closest alternative to a tricep pushdown?
A band pushdown anchored high on a rack copies the movement almost exactly. It's hardest at the bottom and light at the top, so pause for a second with your arms straight.
Can you do tricep pushdowns with dumbbells?
Not really, because a dumbbell pulls straight down and a pushdown needs resistance pulling up. Do a dumbbell overhead triceps extension or a skullcrusher instead; for size, the overhead extension is the better pick anyway.
Can I build bigger triceps without a cable machine?
Yes. A 12-week cable study grew more triceps with the arm overhead than with the arm at the side, and a dumbbell overhead extension puts the arm in that same stretched position. The study didn't test dumbbells. Close-grip push-ups add pressing work.
What is a good tricep pushdown alternative for bad elbows?
A band pushdown or a light kickback, 12 to 20 reps, through a range that doesn't hurt. If the pain is sharp or lasting, stop the exercise and see a qualified professional.
Are dips a good substitute for tricep pushdowns?
They train the triceps hard, but they also load the chest and the front of the shoulders, and the bottom position bothers some people's shoulders. Use them for pressing strength, not as a gentle swap.

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